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I did some family history research and I was surprised at what was uncovered re the convicts exported to OZ.Most had committed minor crimes.In Jolly England at that time,there was virtually no middle class only aristocracy and yobbos.
The laws were deliberately draconian to enable the snobs to export surplus yobs.
Problem was the snobs were running out of hulks to put the yobs in.What I find interesting is that a large percentage of the jail birds sent for a holiday down under were skilled people not your average yobbo.In other words Blowfly the working holiday in OZ was intended to grow a colony after the Yank revolutionaries pissed the Poms off.
Given your fascist beliefs Blowfly I would believe your mob came out as guards of the yobbos not smart prisioners!
National Socialism what a wonderful life!Torchlight parades,the drum beating,swastikas galore,marching jackboots great stuff if you are mentally deficient!
PS the OZ natives were hunter gatherers as were the American Indians.
PPS The first white people originated in Russia! Commies!
 
Your nuts, i bet you can part a crowd at a family gathering like Moses did with the sea, you really excell at being an ass, and how the hell would you know anything re Kent Brockmans family, as for laws being draconian you will find that every country on the planet had laws we would now find harsh, in some you lost a hand if you stole, i had family sent here for forgery, calf stealing, stabbing, burglary and assorted theft, none for stealing hankies .
Magaoidh said:
I did some family history research and I was surprised at what was uncovered re the convicts exported to OZ.Most had committed minor crimes.In Jolly England at that time,there was virtually no middle class only aristocracy and yobbos.
The laws were deliberately draconian to enable the snobs to export surplus yobs.
Problem was the snobs were running out of hulks to put the yobs in.What I find interesting is that a large percentage of the jail birds sent for a holiday down under were skilled people not your average yobbo.In other words Blowfly the working holiday in OZ was intended to grow a colony after the Yank revolutionaries pissed the Poms off.
Given your fascist beliefs Blowfly I would believe your mob came out as guards of the yobbos not smart prisioners!
National Socialism what a wonderful life!Torchlight parades,the drum beating,swastikas galore,marching jackboots great stuff if you are mentally deficient!
PS the OZ natives were hunter gatherers as were the American Indians.
PPS The first white people originated in Russia! Commies!
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It seems a few here are not aware of the significance of Jan 26th, let me explain, again.

The date 26th of Jan is what offends the indigenous.

This was the date they shoved the union jack in the dirt and claimed the land OFFICIALLY for Britain, based on the fraudulent legal foundation of terra nullius, which was overturned in 1992, albeit a little late.

The land was claimed under false pretences as a state of terra nullius never existed.

This is why the date is offensive.

From this date a free race were told they now had to adhere to white colonial laws and rules, they no longer had a right to self govern, they had to do as the invaders told them.

This was without any agreement, treaty or discussion.

This is why the date is offensive.

It was from this date the invaders tried to ban them using their own language, and it goes on and on and on.

It was from the 26th of Jan that they officially (and legally according to the invaders) lost their land, hunting rights and any other advantage of the land.

Seriously, why would any indigenous person be happy to celebrate the 26th Jan?

Would you?

It’s a simple fix, pick a date that does not represent loss, land theft and tragedy, and make it Australia Day.

Let me put it this way, everyone is full of sympathy for the Jewish people after what happened in WW2, do we ask them to celebrate October 3rd?

To save anyone from having to search, Oct 3 is German National Day.

For the Jewish, we have compassion, for the black fellas we have denial.
 
captainsutto said:
More to the point, those images have nothing to do with Jan 26.
Its colonialism that is being rejected and as such, no day is logically suitable to celebrate Australia Day under those circumstances and that is the end goal, I’m afraid
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I agree that there will be some people that are never happy no matter how much is ceded to them, but I think the vast majority of people who think that January 26th isn't the best date for Australia Day, love Australia, love celebrating Australia, and do think we should have an Australia Day. And I think when the date is changed, those that are still unhappy, will be generally ignored and or pitied by a big majority of the population.
Changing the date is not the first step in getting rid of Australia Day altogether.
 
I love Australia.
I think we should have an Australia day.
I am very patriotic by nature.

That doesn't mean I bury my head in the sand in relation to past acts against black Australia and take joy in celebrating their massive loss on the day it became official.

FFS, it's about awareness and compassion.

It's really not complicated.
 
Magaoidh said:
Bullshit your mob if any were prision guards!😡
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I don't think my ancestry in Australia goes back that far, but I reckon if you asked the "prison guards" where they'd rather be, it would be anywhere but here. It was essentially like they'd been sent to Mars to live.
 
No you didnt, useless conversation, no matter you will cling onto a massive guilt complex and ignore all the positives our first nations people now have, with attitudes like yours the victim mentality will be set in stone and nothing will change.
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Caught you out again.
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Have a look in the mirror blowfly!
 
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Bluey said:
No you didnt, useless conversation, no matter you will cling onto a massive guilt complex and ignore all the positives our first nations people now have, with attitudes like yours the victim mentality will be set in stone and nothing will change.
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No, you were caught out stating injustice to Aboriginals doesn't matter because it's "the past", I simply pointed out that must mean you don't support ANZAC Day because it was in the past, and therefore doesn't matter, just like the black injustices.

It's a fair point, you can't have it both ways. Unless of course you're a lying hypocrite.

Is ANZAC Day something that matters or was it too far in the past?
 
Ok well it matters to you, so you tell us all when we all just get on with it, or is one side incapable of moving forward?, there is a sad possibility that might just pan out, and our convict settlers were flogged and removed from family, something that happened a long time ago, our first nations people were sometimes treated poorly, something that happened a long time ago, our ANZACS risked or gave up their lives for our country, cant believe your trying to make a comparison.
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No, you were caught out stating injustice to Aboriginals doesn't matter because it's "the past", I simply pointed out that must mean you don't support ANZAC Day because it was in the past, and therefore doesn't matter, just like the black injustices.

It's a fair point, you can't have it both ways. Unless of course you're a lying hypocrite.

Is ANZAC Day something that matters or was it too far in the past?
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Bluey said:
Ok well it matters to you, so you tell us all when we all just get on with it, or is one side incapable of moving forward?, there is a sad possibility that might just pan out, and our convict settlers were flogged and removed from family, something that happened a long time ago, our first nations people were sometimes treated poorly, something that happened a long time ago, our ANZACS risked or gave up their lives for our country, cant believe your trying to make a comparison.
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You failed to answer a very simple and clear question, I'll repeat it for you.

Is ANZAC Day something that matters or was it too far in the past?

I'll add another simple question.

You seem to have some sympathy for those impacted by WW2 as you mention they "gave their lives for our country". Excellent, we have found something from the past that you feel still matters, the deaths you mention.

So my question is, do you care about the loss of black lives via colonisation?

If not, why not?
 
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