Voice to Parliament Referendum

[MegaRabbitoh]

Not any more from what I can see. You don’t need any direct relatives with aboriginal blood, you just need to say you are one

Proof of Aboriginality

aiatsis.gov.au

“Government agencies and community organisations usually accept three ‘working criteria’ as confirmation of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander heritage. These are:

• being of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander descent
• identifying as an Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander person
• being accepted as such by the community in which you live, or formerly lived.

One Nation wants Aboriginal people to 'prove' ancestry with DNA tests

One Nation’s NSW leader wants First Nations people to prove their heritage by undergoing DNA ancestry testing.

www.sbs.com.au

 

[southsport]

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Unfortunately for you mega, that lengthy “myth busting” pieces is partly opinion based.
The fact check should be fact checked who in turn will fact check that one until we find the opinion we want

Yeah monash university, I wouldn't trust anything from a uni.
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[captainsutto]

It begs the question, apart from being Australian what should I identify as. I can’t decide between Swedish or one of my tribes from my Mali decency Fulani or Mande

 

[MegaRabbitoh]

‘We can’t afford to lose’: the campaign for a yes vote in north Queensland

Advocacy group Together, Yes is holding information sessions to help people hold conversations in support of the Indigenous voice

www.theguardian.com

“We cannot afford to lose,” he says. “We have put ourselves out there now, it will be a disaster if this does not pass.”
“The strength of the yes campaign is that it is not run by the politicians,” Crooks says.

 

[captainsutto]

‘We can’t afford to lose’: the campaign for a yes vote in north Queensland

Advocacy group Together, Yes is holding information sessions to help people hold conversations in support of the Indigenous voice

www.theguardian.com

“We cannot afford to lose,” he says. “We have put ourselves out there now, it will be a disaster if this does not pass.”
“The strength of the yes campaign is that it is not run by the politicians,” Crooks says.

Why will it be a disaster if it’s a NO vote that wins?

 

[MegaRabbitoh]

Why will it be a disaster if it’s a NO vote that wins?

Ask them.

 

[captainsutto]

Ask them.

Stuck for a legitimate answer again
I notice you do that a lot

By the way, ask who?

 

[Prowsey]

Honestly…@ziggy.n. asked to keep this debate impersonal and p.

But we have two posters, who follow each other around these threads making outrageous claims, not backed up by facts.

@captainsutto in particular continues to make outrageous slurs about “aboriginality”. Clearly parroting the innuendos that numerous Sky after Dark presenters have made about “what it means to be aboriginal” and “blue eyed aboriginals” etc. The same claims that landed Andrew Bolt in hot water with the anti-discrimination commission.

When others present facts from numerous sources, they dismiss the source and either deflect or make other wild allegations.

Then pretend to be wounded when challenged again, before repeating their double act of innuendo and double speak.

 

[captainsutto]

Honestly…@ziggy.n. asked to keep this debate impersonal and p.

But we have two posters, who follow each other around these threads making outrageous claims, not based up by fact.

@captainsutto in particular continues to make outrageous slurs about “aboriginality”. Clearly parroting the innuendos that numerous Sky after Dark presenters have made about “what it means to be aboriginal” and “blue eyed aboriginals” etc. The same claims that landed Andrew Bolt in hot water with the anti-discrimination commission.

When others present facts from numerous sources, they dismiss the source and either deflect or make other wild allegations.

Then pretend to be wounded when challenged again, before repeating their double act of innuendo and double speak.

oh get a grip.

First of all you lot constantly dismiss sources from areas you don’t like. Are you incapable of even realising that? If you are go to the skynews thread and see

next up, show me any “outrageous slurs about “aboriginality” that Ive made.

Before being critical of anyone you deem to oppose you! Take a moment and self reflect

 

[MegaRabbitoh]

I echo Ziggy N's request to keep this thread civil. There are other threads where the political back and forth can occur. Let's keep this one free of all of that please.

Thank you.

 

[captainsutto]

@captainsutto in particular continues to make outrageous slurs about “aboriginality”. Clearly parroting the innuendos that numerous Sky after Dark presenters have made about “what it means to be aboriginal” and “blue eyed aboriginals”

And, further to you needing to self reflect, when in gods name have I said anything of the sort.
your comment is nothing but a bald faced lie thus making it personal. Simply because you don’t like the answers to what I’m asking.
I await your apology for that lie or you can edit that post if you’d prefer

 

[captainsutto]

I echo Ziggy N's request to keep this thread civil. There are other threads where the political back and forth can occur. Let's keep this one free of all of that please.

Thank you.

And so do I

 

[Prowsey]

But yet, there is no clarification about who or what is an aboriginal person aside from , “if you want to be, you are”
That’s a hijack recipe if ever I’ve seen one

So…if this isn’t you making claims about “aboriginality”, can you explain what your point is?

There are follow up posts from you on this…and you littered the SkyNews thread with the same outrageous claims.

And, further to you needing to self reflect, when in gods name have I said anything of the sort.
your comment is nothing but a bald faced lie thus making it personal. Simply because you don’t like the answers to what I’m asking.
I await your apology for that lie or you can edit that post if you’d prefer

So…having proven that you have made these claims in this and other threads, I don’t think i have anything to apologise for…you on the other hand.

And it has absolutely nothing to do with the Voice debate. Just more misdirection and deflection.

 

[Prowsey]

oh get a grip.

First of all you lot constantly dismiss sources from areas you don’t like. Are you incapable of even realising that? If you are go to the skynews thread and see

Actually @MegaRabbitoh in particular has done an outstanding job of rebutting the “sources” you’ve put up.

next up, show me any “outrageous slurs about “aboriginality” that Ive made.

Done.

Before being critical of anyone you deem to oppose you! Take a moment and self reflect

And yet again more deflection.

Engage in the debate with facts and accept rebuttal of those facts.

Don’t put up bullshit strawmen about the Uluṟu statement or the degree of aboriginality and it will be all good.

 

[captainsutto]

You need to apologise or edit your personal attack. Rather ironic you accused me of it
I have not once said anything that can be construed as a “outrageous racial slur against aboriginals”
I never once uttered or suggested anything along the lines of ”blue eyed aboriginals”

Your disgusting slurs, not mine. Apologise or edit your comments