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Bully said:
Big story given they had him all but locked in.. attention turn to Hornby & Young now?
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From what I was told a while ago it was between Ryles and Young. I haven’t heard anything since. But from what was told of me I would be shocked if it weren’t Young.
 
MegaRabbitoh said:
I agree to some extent but differ when it comes to the circumstances that exist at different clubs. Right now, the Dragons are a basket case from the head office down and a tough gig for a rookie or experienced coach but at the moment, I think an experienced coach has a better chance of taking control and running the whole place. A rookie coach can be successful at a club with good and sensible admin behind them where they can just focus on their job and not the entire club.
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I tend to look a this from a corporate lens, cause that's my background.

There are roughly 2 types of CEO's: Builder/Dynamo and Operators.

A company will hire a dynamic CEO when they're looking for quick growth.
They will be more dynamic style individuals, who have a strong personal brand and charisma.
They don't focus as much on building out the scaffolding underneath.

A compnay will hire an Operator to clean up the mess that the dynamo CEO left (😂).
On a more serious note - they are the solid and stolid types, who focus on governance and process and less on growth at any cost.
They're raison detre is to put in place the scaffolding that will support the next phase of rapid growth and build out a really strong team underneath the CEO.

Companies will quite often shift to the "steady as she goes" style CEO when the economic conditions are a bit iffy...look at Qantas appointing their CFO as an example. Don't need anything flashy...just batten down the hatches and focus on survival type approach.

It's sweeping generalisations but you can apply the same lens to Head Coaches.

St George needs someone who is going to be able to build the scaffolding of a successful club. Someone who can get the board and senior management to actually function as a team etc.

Ryles doesn't strike me as having the presence or the style to be able to methodically rebuild the front office and football depts.

Far better move for him to move to Melbourne - that have an incredible infrastructure in place and grow the next premiership winning team.

I think St George needs an experienced coach that can demand that the club cleans its act up. I don't think that's Flanagan either.
 
Prowsey said:
I tend to look a this from a corporate lens, cause that's my background.

There are roughly 2 types of CEO's: Builder/Dynamo and Operators.

A company will hire a dynamic CEO when they're looking for quick growth.
They will be more dynamic style individuals, who have a strong personal brand and charisma.
They don't focus as much on building out the scaffolding underneath.

A compnay will hire an Operator to clean up the mess that the dynamo CEO left (😂).
On a more serious note - they are the solid and stolid types, who focus on governance and process and less on growth at any cost.
They're raison detre is to put in place the scaffolding that will support the next phase of rapid growth and build out a really strong team underneath the CEO.

Companies will quite often shift to the "steady as she goes" style CEO when the economic conditions are a bit iffy...look at Qantas appointing their CFO as an example. Don't need anything flashy...just batten down the hatches and focus on survival type approach.

It's sweeping generalisations but you can apply the same lens to Head Coaches.

St George needs someone who is going to be able to build the scaffolding of a successful club. Someone who can get the board and senior management to actually function as a team etc.

Ryles doesn't strike me as having the presence or the style to be able to methodically rebuild the front office and football depts.

Far better move for him to move to Melbourne - that have an incredible infrastructure in place and grow the next premiership winning team.

I think St George needs an experienced coach that can demand that the club cleans its act up. I don't think that's Flanagan either.
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Thanks for that. Makes perfect sense. Someone mentioned Hasler as the bloke that is good at controlling everything at the club and getting it all going in the right direction. Definitely a dynamo.

They could do worse - and probably will. This Webb bloke they have already has quite the gaffe history starting from his ham-fisted attempts to get Folau that backfired badly. 🤣
 
yobbo84 said:
He isn't off contract until the end of 2024 so they can't talk to him before November 1.
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How can they stop people from talking?

Is it really a case that he can't be signed before Nov 1? shrug.gif
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