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I think the "if we played at Allianz crowds would be better" is a myth too.

I reckon if Friday's game was at Allianz, it would have been 6K if not less.

Lets remember, a huge portion of our membership is from Western Sydney.


I think the crowds would improve
I think you’d get younger people coming back to the footy, even from western Sydney, groups that usually go into the city on a Friday or Saturday for a night out would be more likely to start at the game
Younger people in their late teens, 20s, 30s & even 40s want more than just going to the footy, people can make a day or night of it by having a meal in Chinatown or Surry Hills, a few beers in one of loads of pubs & then go to the game, Homebush offers nothing
 
I think the "if we played at Allianz crowds would be better" is a myth too.

I reckon if Friday's game was at Allianz, it would have been 6K if not less.

Lets remember, a huge portion of our membership is from Western Sydney.
I don’t think Allianz fixes everything, but as a first step in a systematic effort to boost crowds, it would be terrific.

Clubs the world over see upticks in attendance following a home ground upgrade.

Take that momentum and do something with it.

But as people have suggested, the NRL, Club and NSW Govt don’t care.
 
I think the crowds would improve
I think you’d get younger people coming back to the footy, even from western Sydney, groups that usually go into the city on a Friday or Saturday for a night out would be more likely to start at the game
Younger people in their late teens, 20s, 30s & even 40s want more than just going to the footy, people can make a day or night of it by having a meal in Chinatown or Surry Hills, a few beers in one of loads of pubs & then go to the game, Homebush offers nothing

Dont get me wrong mate, im from Western sydney and Olympic park is down the road from work - but ill take Allianz every day of the week because its our heartland
 
One thing I’d ask the forum is, when you go to other grounds do you notice a different demographic? Age? Gender? Are there more family units or groups of friends etc
 
I wouldn't feed my family the food that is sold at footy venues (which is beside the point), however, a quick tip to the powers that be is if you make eating at the footy affordable and easy, I'd say a fair few parents would opt to take their kids to the footy on a Friday or Saturday night. You would get entertainment and dinner in one fell swoop.

This behavior will likely become embedded and when those kids grow up and have kids of their own, the cycle should continue.

What do I know though.
 
I wouldn't feed my family the food that is sold at footy venues (which is beside the point), however, a quick tip to the powers that be is if you make eating at the footy affordable and easy, I'd say a fair few parents would opt to take their kids to the footy on a Friday or Saturday night. You would get entertainment and dinner in one fell swoop.

This behavior will likely become embedded and when those kids grow up and have kids of their own, the cycle should continue.

What do I know though.


Have you been to Accor lately? Last year?
There are heaps of different food outlets there now, still expensive but there’s much more variety
 
One thing I’d ask the forum is, when you go to other grounds do you notice a different demographic? Age? Gender? Are there more family units or groups of friends etc
Yes. Allianz, Roosters, much younger, less family units.

That’s an anecdotal observation but it doesn’t look like their crowd from 10-15 years ago. It’s regenerated big time and actually reflects the demographics of the inner Sydney area better.

Our crowds seem like legitimately the same people that were there 10-15 years ago. Just less.
 
The food is never going to get properly sorted.

Even Allianz which is supposed to be really good is pretty whatever.

No point complaining about food at stadiums, the movies and theme parks in Australia.

We don’t do cheap and tasty or expensive and special. It’s very middle of the way utilitarian at a premium. Splash some cash, put something in your face - it is what it is.

There’s a deeper issue at play with the fact that clubs don’t own or operate facilities. So there’s a profit share, staffing, blah blah blah.

In the states where stadium food is an adventure and experience unto themselves, clubs own their venues. They often have themed entertainment precincts and accommodation all designed for benefit of the team. It’s common ownership and a singular vision.

Stadium Australia has a very different value outlook to what the club does, to what fans do.
 
I take your point ppls.

My point is that this could be a lever that can be pulled to draw people back to the stadiums and in turn create behaviours that are passed on to future generations.

I am sure some parents could see the benefits in feeding their children and watching a quality game of footy at the same time.

Parents are time poor and with the cost of living crisis, money poor as well.

This is one lever that could be pulled to solve multiple problems for 'lazy' parents.

But we all know they aren't serious about in-person attendance, so it won't change.

They will identify it as a problem when it's too late no doubt.
 
For arguments sake, lets say I wasnt.

What now?
For arguments sake, it's easy to complain about a problem if you're not willing to be part of the solution.

Long term we need to get the hell out of Accor and claim our area back. There is absolutely no reason we shouldn't be playing out of Allianz - in OUR area.
 
Now, anecdotally, I see a lot of 50+ year olds at the footy, and then a lot of young families (30-40 years with their kids). I don't see a lot of 20-somethings at our games.

That's the generation gap we face, and to me 90% of that problem is Olympic Park.

I'm a tragic and I remember in my early twenties - admittedly we weren't a very good team then - but it was nigh impossible to get my mates to come to the footy on a Friday or Saturday night. They would happily go to Shark Park (then Northies after), SFS (then the city after) or even to Parra (then a myriad of food/drink options after) though.

There is nothing to do in Homebush. Not just the area. It's the stadium, too.

There is nothing to entice you to go to a shitty match in the middle of July at the cost of $60-70 a ticket. Sure, some tickets are $20, but you're 100m+ from the field and the experience is so poor it's not worth the attendance.

The other thing being that Accor is an event stadium, with a large number of events happening over summer into March, and as such all our games get sandwiched there during the dull middle period of the season when crowds across the board in Sydney struggle.

We really, really, need to get out of there.
 

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